well, so far SF is great, but these treo 650's are sucking. Mine was stuck in a reboot loop during the whole keynote. I couldn't take notes, make/get calls etc. Eventually the battery died. I returned to the hotel and got a partial recharge. By the time I got back my first 4 hour lab was full, so now I'm attending a 1 hr session on dynamic network architecture to pass the time til the seesion on Groovy. The keynote was good -- Sun open sourced solaris, serverside java app server and announced a renewed partnership with IBM. It's an11 year deal ( yay for spinal tap and execs with a sense of humor. I'm definitely going to start a list of ways treos suck. Maybe its time to go backl to a backberry.